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2008 FMDAC Fall Convention & Treasure Expo.

October 10th, 11th and 12th, 2008


The event will be held in Wildwood Crest, NJ accommodations at the Attaché Motel. The rooms will be $75 per night plus tax. To make reservations you can call 1-609-522-0241. Book early as there are a limited number of rooms. http://www.attache-motel.com/ Overflow will be directed to the Gondolier Hotel across the street. Be sure to tell them you are with the FMDAC - Federation of Metal Detector and Archaeological Clubs Inc.

Wildwood Crest is located between Atlantic City and Historic Cape May. At Wildwood there is an amusement park, boardwalk and many stores. Wildwood is a family orientated resort area.

See More at FMDAC Website: http://www.fmdac.org


 

AMDA's Annual Rendezvous & Treasure Hunt Weekend for Laughlin 2008

October 24, 25, and 26, 2008, in Laughlin, Nevada.

 

The event will be supported by members of the Colorado River Treasure Seekers Club (CRTS) in Bullhead City, Arizona. The hunt site again is located at the corner of Woodbury and Thomas Edison Drives, in Laughlin, approximately 1/2 miles West of Casino Drive. As soon as the hunt flyer is finished, it will be available from either

Contact: Bernard  916-635-6854, BGG589@aol.com

Contact: Carolyn 719-749-0134, cgarrettwc@aol.com

See More at AMDA Website: http://www.AMDAONLINE.NET


Action Required

 

U.S. Congress: HR2421. It is titled the Clean Water Restoration Act. Sounds like a winner right. WRONG! This is another wolf in sheep’s clothing. It places virtually all water in the nation under the control of the Corp of Engineers and the EPA. It does this by replacing the words “navigable water” with “Waters of the United States” in their jurisdictional requirements. It gives them authority over every piece of water in the US. This includes every lake, swamp, stream, tiny creek and your pond. Along with any activity that affects them. Here is some wording from the bill.

 WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES- The term `waters of the United States' means all waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing, to the fullest extent that these waters, or activities affecting these waters, are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution.'.

That’s right. They will have control over the pond on your property or that lowspot that fills with water during wet times. Look for a whole long list of new regulations and permits to do everything from boating to killing weeds to prospecting. Could this even affect metal detecting and diving? Sooner or later they will probably get to us!

This is another example of the far lefts attempts to take control of private property under the ruse of “protecting” something. They are slowly chipping away at the very freedoms that founded this country. Do not let them succeed. Contact your representative and tell them to oppose this attack on your property rights.
Here is the bill.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/ billtext.xpd?bill=h110-2421

 

Contact your representative.
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/ welcome.shtml


Action Required

 

U.S. Congress Bill: S3213. It is a huge omnibus bill, which includes the National Landscape Conservation System.  This bill passed in the house and is now in the Senate. There are over 90 bills combined into one big mess. This bill will take over 26 million acres of both government and even private lands and place it under national park style regulations. Many new parks and scenic areas would be created. This for a system that already cannot manage what it has. In order to manage this system it will add untold millions to the budget and that money comes right out of our pockets. Feinstein wants to add another 6 million acres to it.

It will eventually eliminate many multiple uses that are now allowed as the lands are gradually turned into parks and roads eliminated. Public use activities such as grazing, mining, prospecting, off-roading, and even hiking could disappear. Any traditional use of this land by anyone will be affected. It also includes a number of “National Trails”, many of which pass through a lot of private property. The landowners will eventually loose control of their property along with anyone who falls within any of the boundaries.

Here is the link to the bill. The full bill is over 700 pages. Any bill like this should be opposed. No one can possibly know all that is in it. This is a way of pushing through all kinds of bad legislation that would never stand on its own. It is a travesty that our elected representatives would use these means, but not one bit surprising.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/ bill.xpd?bill=s110-3213

 

Contact your Senators immediately. Tell them to oppose S3213 in no uncertain terms. Here is a link to contact your senators.
http://www.senate.gov/general/ contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


8-17-08 Message FMDAC's South Western Chapter

 

Hello Everyone,

 

It looks like the petition and the the Mid-Western Artifact Society are making some progrees. Below is a link to an article in today's Kansas City Star. There is also a comment section to this article.

 

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/753223.html

 

Get those petitions signed and sent back to Daren Sommers by the first of September.

 

Mike Smith - FMDAC Southwestern Chapter President

 


Action Required:

 

The Park Directive #4 reads "Metal detecting is prohibited in the city parks."
They don't have it posted anywhere, not at the parks, not on their website.
I had to call their Parks and Rec Dept to get the information.
Attached is a petition that can be signed by anyone and mailed to the city of Overland Park, Kansas.

City of Overland Park
http://www.opkansas.org
mailto:city@opkansas.org
913/895-6000
8500 Santa Fe Drive
Overland Park, KS 66212

Petition

 


Ring Found & Returned After 21 Years
April 12, 2007
One week ago today I met up with Scott Farley and gave him his class ring back that had been missing for 21 yrs. It had been stolen from his house right after he got it in 1986. A SVDB Metal Detecting Club Member, Pete Pobor, found the ring; contacted Mira Loma...looked in 1986 year book...etc.

Pete then contacted me as the class reunion contact person. The address I had for Scott, I gave to Pete. Pete went out to the address but found Scott Farley had just moved. The neighbors didn't know where he moved to. Scott wasn't listed in any phone books. Anybody with the last name of Farley claimed they had never heard of Scott.

Pete went ahead and gave Scott's ring to me in the hope I would someday be able to locate him. I promised Pete that I'd let him know when I found Scott.

I went ahead and sent a letter to the last address I had for my classmate Scott Farley, hoping that the Post Office forwarding order had not yet expired. It hadn't. Two weeks later, Scott Farley called me. About a week after that I met up with Scott and gave him his ring back. As soon as I left the meeting with Scott, I called Pete with the good news. He reminded me that the Club's monthly meeting was that very night. I assured him I'd be there. I was about 10 minutes late, but I did show up and told the story in person.

The rest, they say, is history!
Wanted to share the happy ending with all of you that may not have attended the meeting.
All the best to you.
Happy Treasure Hunting!
Dusti Garside Branecki
Owner, DGB Specialties, Mobile Notary and Loan Signing Specialist


July 2, 2008  Club Metal Detector Winner

White's Prizm II was donated for the Club Raffle by Big Valley Metal Detectors. The cost of a Raffle ticket was $5.00 - one per member.


                                  Winner was: Ken Marcum

 

 

 


Action Required

This is from Don Robinson of the Goldhounds in Auburn.

Hello Goldhounds,
The following is a letter from Jerry Hobbs, PLP, to the Governor about stopping the trailer bill to the budget that is attempting to stop all dredging in California. It's important that each of us address this issue and take the time to send Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger a letter to veto this trailer bill. If this is approved, dredging stops in California. Feel free to use some of Jerry's ideas and thoughts on this.
Each of us need to address this issue right now and send the Governor a letter before it's too late. Thanks. Don
 

PLP letter to Ca. Gov.
Feel free to us any part of this letter with your comments on the moratorium on suction dredging in the state of California. It is important to get these letters in to keep dredging in this state alive.
Public lands for the People inc.
501c-3 non profit org
7194 CONEJO DR.
San Bernardino Ca. 92404

 
Honorable Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
Governor of the State of California 7/8/2008
California State Capital Bldg. Cert.
Sacramento, Ca. 95814

 
RE: Budget Bill with attached Trailer Bill , 2008, Funding for CA. State Fish and Game Environmental Impact Report Study on Suction Dredging.
 
Dear Governor Schwarzenegger
 
Public Lands for the People inc. (PLP) is a 501 c-3 non profit organization with approximately 40,000, constituent members, most of whom are small and medium scale suction dredge miners and prospectors who would be affected by any moratorium on suction dredge mining.
 
It is our understanding that there is an attempt by the CA. State Legislature to add a Trailer Bill (rider) to funding recommended for CA. State Budget, Sec. 3600, resources, California Department of Fish and Game (DFG). That Trailer Bill would read something to the effect that if the monies for the Environmental Impact Report (EIR) on suction dredging mining are awarded to the California State Fish and Game, that there will be a moratorium on suction dredge mining in the state of California until the DFG’s completion of the EIR (which could be from 2 to 10 years) and a raise in permit fees from approximately $45.00 to $100.00 for each permit.
 
We would like to point out PLP’s opposition and legal position on this Trailer Bill (rider) to Governor Schwarzenegger, so that he will be able to understand the problems that may occur down the line between the miners and the State of California if such a moratorium is put into place and enforced.

 
First of all the Governor has already vetoed a Bill (AB 1032) which attempted raise fees for suction dredge permits and to close some 68 rivers in the State of California just last year, 2007. The following quoted material is what Governor Schwarzenegger had to say about closures on suction dredge mining. In essence a moratorium is a closure and prohibition for what ever length of time.
 

“To the Members of the California State Assembly:”
”I am returning Assembly Bill 1032 without my signature.”

 
”The purpose of this bill is to protect fish and wildlife from the potential deleterious effects of suction dredge mining. Although I appreciate the author’s intent and the need to protect our fish, wildlife, and water resources, this bill is unnecessary.”

”Current law gives the Department of Fish and Game (Department) the necessary authority to protect fish and wildlife resources from suction dredge mining. It has promulgated regulations and issues permits for this activity. Permits for suction dredge mining must ensure that these operations are not deleterious to fish and allow the Department to specify the type and size of equipment to be used. In its regulations, the Department may also designate specific waters or areas that are closed to dredging.”
 
”It is unclear why this bill specifically targets a number of specific waterways for closure or further restrictions. The listed waterways represent only a small fraction of the waters in our State where suction dredging is occurring. The benefit or protection from such a minor closure is negligible and supports the notion that scientific environmental review should precede such decisions.”
 
”Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger”

 
The Governor is not the only party to state that, “The benefit or protection from such a minor closure is negligible and supports the notion that scientific environmental review should precede such decisions.” In a 2007 Court decision, (Karuk Tribe v CA. Department of Fish and Game) Judge Bonnie Sabraw stated that, and I quote:
 
“Here, the initial PSJ would enjoin suction dredge mining all together in certain areas and during certain periods in others. The closures of the rivers would be generally applicable to all suction dredging while in effect. The injunction would essentially operate as a promulgation of regulations on suction dredging, without such regulations having been subject, as required by law, to the public notice and hearing requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act and the California Administrative Procedures Act. See Cal. Fish and Game Code section 5653.9.”
 
The following Federal case also finds violation of federal law by the state of CA., if this proposed Trailer Bill were to implement a moratorium on suction dredge mining for the duration of said EIR, it would be a prohibition and in conflict with federal law.
 
South Dakota Mining Association v. Lawrence County (Cite as: 155 F.3d 1005)
 
“If Congress evidences intent to occupy given field, any state law or local ordinance falling within that field is preempted. U.S.C.A. Const. Art. 6, cl. 2.”
 
“If Congress has not entirely displaced state regulation over matter in question, state law is still preempted to extent it actually conflicts with federal law, that is, when it is impossible to comply with both state and federal law, or where state law stands as obstacle to accomplishment of full purposes and objectives of Congress. U.S.C.A. Const. Art. 6, cl. 2.”
 
“Federal Mining Act preempted ordinance prohibiting issuance of any new or amended permits for surface metal mining within area which included federal lands; ordinance stood as obstacle to accomplishment of full purposes and objectives of Congress of encouraging exploration and mining of valuable mineral deposits located on federal land. U.S.C.A. Const. Art. 6, cl. 2; 30 U.S.C.A. §§ 21 26.”
 
“The Supreme Court has set forth the analysis we must apply to determine if a state law is preempted by federal law:”
 
“State law can be pre empted in either of two general ways. If Congress evidences an intent to occupy a given field, any state law falling within that field is pre empted. If Congress has not entirely displaced state regulation over the matter in question, state law is still pre empted to the extent it actually conflicts with federal law, that is, when it is impossible to comply with both state and federal law, or where the state law stands as an obstacle to the accomplishment of the full purposes and objectives of Congress.”
 
Peters v. Union Pac. R..R. Co., 80 F.3d 257, 261 (8th Cir.1996). “Congress has codified its declaration of the federal government's policy towards mining:”
 
“The Congress declares that it is the continuing policy of the Federal Government in the national interest to foster and encourage private enterprise in (1) the development of economically sound and stable domestic mining, minerals, metal and mineral reclamation industries, (2) the orderly and economic development of domestic mineral resources, reserves, and reclamation of metals and minerals to help assure satisfaction of industrial, security and environmental needs,”
 
Passage of the CA. Budget bill with a moritorium rider attached, prohibiting suction dredge mining, completely frustrates the accomplishment of these federally encouraged activities. A local government cannot prohibit a lawful use of the sovereign's land that the superior sovereign itself permits and encourages. To do so offends both the Property Clause and the Supremacy Clause of the federal Constitution. Passage of this portion of the CA. Budget is prohibitory, not regulatory, in its fundamental character.
 
For the above reasons PLP asks that Governor Schwarzenegger veto any rider or Trailer Bill attached to budget funding for the CA. Deptarment of Fish and game to do the EIR on suction dredge mining.
 
Respectfully Submitted
 
Gerald Hobbs
President
Public Lands for the People
909-889-3039
Jerhobbs2@verizon.net


Issue 1: Court Ordered Suction Dredge Program Review

Governor’s Budget. The Governor’s budget proposes $1 million General Fund for 2008-09 and $500,000 for 2009-10 to complete a court ordered environmental review of the Department's Suction Dredging Program pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act.

Background. Suction Dredging is the practice of vacuuming river or lake bottoms for gold. In 1994 the Department of Fish and Game (DFG) adopted regulations to implement the suction dredge program, as required by statute. Since that time, the DFG and the National Marine Fisheries Service have listed ten fish species as threatened or endangered.
In 2005, the Karuk Tribe of California filed a complaint for declaratory relief against DFG in Alameda County Superior Court alleging DFG’s issuance of suction dredge permits in the Klamath, Scott, and Salmon River watersheds violated the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) because of the potential for suction dredge mining in these watersheds to result in significant impacts to the newly listed Coho salmon.
On December 20, 2006, the Alameda County Superior Court ordered DFG by June 2008 to “…conduct a further environmental review pursuant to CEQA of its suction dredge mining regulation and to implement, if necessary, via rulemaking, mitigation measures to protect the Coho salmon and/or other special status fish species…” The Court found that DFG has a legal obligation to review the environmental effects of suction dredge mining on Coho salmon and other fish species of special concern.

Current Fee Structure. Annually, DFG processes about 300 permits per year for Suction Dredge Gold Mining. Currently, the Department charges a fee of $50 for permit, generating total revenues of about $150,000. Staff understands that it will cost the Department about $1.26 million to conduct the EIR, administer and enforce this program in 2008-09.

Staff Comments. The Subcommittee may wish to consider raising the Suction Dredge Gold Mining permit fee bay an amount that would generate adequate revenue to support more or all of the costs to administer and operate this program. Suction dredge mining poses significant risks to sensitive aquatic and riparian that provide habitat for many State and Federal listed endangered species. Increased revenues to the program would help improve ongoing enforcement of permitted, and non-permitted, mining activities – without which, the State has little control over how this practice is impacting the public trust.
Additionally, staff has concerns that while DFG is completing the EIR of the program, the Department's deficiencies in program enforcement will allow further potential degradation of statewide anadramous fish habitat. Considering the crisis the state is facing with salmon populations, the Subcommittee should discuss potential interim measures such as moratoriums on mining that might be taken to protect habitat from dredge mining.

Action: Approve as budgeted with trailer bill language to increase suction dredging fees and place partial moratorium on mining while EIR is being completed.
 


August 26, 2006
Lost Ring

My name is Brian Mott I rented a metal detector from Gold Mine to try and find the ring that I lost awhile ago. I guess that I didn't have the patience because the metal detector kept going off.   I lost a solid gold ring while throwing the ball for my dog.  This ring means a lot to me, so I was wondering if one of your members would look for it someone with more experience then myself.  The ring was lost early this spring. Of course I would pay them to find it.  So if you could help i would greatly appreciate it.  You can e-mail me or reach me on my cell phone. Thank you.   Brian Mott

August 30, 2006
Today three members of SVDB club along with Brian went to look for his 18K Gold Band. The club members were: Don Dunn, Bob Maytum, and Lee Wiese. Brian took us to a vacant lot in Sacramento; we setup an area with Flags and went to work. Less than ten minutes later Don said, “we can stop the search”-Don had the ring. Brian said that’s it. The hand shakes and thank you followed with Brian donating $60 to the club. It was a GOOD DAY. ----Lee

 


Ring Found

To: rgswenson@starstream.net
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Anyone able to help me find wedding band
Hello Ron,
I am wondering if anyone would be able to help me scan an area at William Land Park.  I lost my wedding band on Sunday October 2nd 2005.  I located your info online by doing a search.
Thank you for any assistance,
Alan Zarembski , LCGZ@comcast.net

Hello Ron,
       Thanks to Jim Hallett, SVDB Member ,and his brother Bob, the ring is back on my finger! (See attached pics.) I cannot begin to express the thanks that this warrants. I had been searching the area every day for the last week, and within one hour Bob found it! Absolutely amazing!!
      My thanks was the only reward they would accept, so here it is. I am so grateful to all of you and your interesting hobby...I had no idea such a club even existed prior to this experience. I will speak your praises at every opportunity. You offer an incredible service, and I hope all of you continue to be richly rewarded!
Sincerely, Alan Zarembski


Friday, Sept. 15, 2006
Dear Sir,

Can you please give me some tips on how to buy/rent a gold/metal detector to find my lost ring. I know where it’s lost – it’s with in a two-meter radius shrubs. But I am not able to find it due to fallen leaves etc. The ring is 22ct gold with nine gemstones.
Thanks
Srinivas Lingam

Sunday, Sept. 17, 2006
Met Srinivas at noon today at the Intel facility to look for the ring. Well, it was a difficult hunt since a seven-foot hedge and one-foot thick ground cover was involved. At the very end of the search area, which was a bit larger than 9-11 sq metrics the ring was found in the ground cover. With handshakes and thank you complete, Srinivas present the club with a $25 dollar Toy-r-us Gift card. Another good day. Lee
Sunday, Sept. 17, 2006
I want to thank you one more time for your great help. I am extremely happy as that ring not because its about $500 value, but because it has a sentimental value to me. Thanks for taking pains to come all the way to Folsom and take efforts to search the ring for me.
Good Luck in future Endeavors.
Regards, Srinivas

 


Check Found

Bob Maytum and I went metal detecting in some soccer fields last Sunday evening October 30th..  Just before dark I found my most valuable treasure I ever found.  It was worth over $1,400.
    What I found was an uncashed check for $1484.33.  The check was face down and it had the withholding information attached.  I actually walked over it and came back to it thinking it was trash and I was about to throw it in a garbage can when I realized it was a uncashed check.  Fortunately, the check had a name and address printed on it and it was from the Natomas School District.  The next morning I called the school district and they referred me to the teacher who lost the check at her daughter’s soccer game.  Needless to say the teacher was very happy about getting her check back because the school district would have taken several weeks to re-issue another one. 
     I did tell her that I was metal detecting when I found her check.   I was just trying to get a plug in for us detectorists to show that we are the good guys.   Don Dunn


NEWS FLASH - LOST DIAMOND RING $500.00 REWARD
On 6/17/07 A gentleman approached as I was detecting and asked. "Did you find a diamond ring?"
I said "Nope, did you loose one?"
The guy said. "No but somebody lost one around here about three and a half years ago. They left signs on the bleachers, $500.00 reward."
I thanked him for the tip and I'm passing it on to the club. I hunted the area for about an hour and found a 10k white gold ring and a no-big-deal silver ring but no diamond ring.
This was at Brock Park which is located on the south side of Antelope Rd between Walerga and Watt.
From what he said I assume the ring was lost in about 2004. Does anyone know anything about it? Perhaps the ring has been found or maybe it's still there to be found.
Good luck if you go for it.  Pete

 


LOST DIAMOND
On Saturday, July 15, three SVDB members drove to El Dorado Hills in search of a diamond earring stud. Previously, the owner of the lost stud had contacted the club and had asked for assistance. Thus, that morning Gary Zang, Jim Milbradt, and Rick Costello arrived at the home of Gerald Kobalter, the owner. Mr. Kobalter allowed us to tune to the remaining stud and then took us to the scene of the lost stud. Jim marked off the search area with pegs that he had brought. Within a minute and a half, Jim Milbradt pulled a target out of the grass. Sure enough, it was the missing stud! Although Gary had stated that we would accept no reward for ourselves, he had told Mr. Kobalter that we would accept a donation to the club. As we were leaving, Mr. Kobalter handed us a donation of $200 for the club.

Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:03:58 -0700
From: gerald.kobalter@gte.net
Subject: Lost Diamond Ear Stud
To: SacramentoValleyDetectingBuffs@Yahoo.com

Am willing to pay to have someone in your organization use their capabilities to find a lost diamond earring stud in a local park in El Dorado Hills, Ca. We know almost the exact location that it was lost, so the search area is very small - but so it the stud! If anyone is interested please contact my wife or I as listed below. Gerald or Patricia